Atlanta singer-songwriter Summer Walker joined rapper Yung Miami on Thursday’s episode of Caresha Please. The two discussed motherhood, the power of therapy, and postpartum depression.

Walker opened up about her first experience with therapy, which she used to call “that white people shit,” and how on the first day she met her therapist she cried. “She caught me in a fucking meltdown in the dressing room,” she said while smoking hookah. “And I was like, just the day that she’s here. She’s going to think I’m nuts.”